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Why is the Logo for the City of Prince George Turning Up on Skateboard Clothes?
Also, meet Mrs. PG
There was so much in yesterday’s newsletter that I considered leaving some of it for today but I figured — might as well give you the news when there is some and keep these things shorts when there isn’t. Well, today there’s not a lot so it’s a short one.
At the Prince George Citizen, Arthur Williams has broken out more reporting on that major RCMP report being presented to council later today: RCMP, City of Prince George ‘working in silos’ on crime, social issues, experts find.
A week after city council received a report on the importance of preserving trees in the city, B.C. Housing has gone ahead and chopped down rows of mature aspen — despite sending a letter to people living nearby reassuring them they would allow the trees to stand. This is where a bylaw, as proposed by environmental students at UNBC, might come in handy.
A business owner in the downtown industrial area wants to form a group to pay for lighting and security patrols since, as we’ve learned, the police can’t keep up.
I keep saying to keep an eye on the rapid growth of northwest B.C. Province has announced funding to try and keep up.
And BBC Travel published a feature on the ViaRail ride from Jasper to Prince Rupert, and what they describe as an “obligatory” stopover in Prince George, quoting a conductor who says they are literally forced to stop here because of a deal reached in the 90s: Ouch, but also fair, the railyard is not the nicest location day or night. If you have any insight into whether this deal forcing them to stay here is true, please let me know! (By the way, you can respond to any post by leaving a comment, or privately by replying to this email)
Meet Mrs. PG
I’m off Twitter now but the news still comes to me, so I got a few messages about this:
Stop the presses.
Today I discovered there is a Mrs. PG and she’s everything I hoped she’d be.
— Darrin Rigo (@Darrin_Rigo)
6:59 PM • Dec 12, 2022
My answer is: Yes, I did know there is a Mrs. PG and I also know there is another one:
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I’m not sure if this is officially a Mrs. (Ms.?) PG, but this old phone booth which used to be outside the old visitor centre on 15th Ave. was last seen by me in an enclosure at the museum. I’m also not sure if it’s there anymore, honestly.
Not to brag, but I also knew this:
Our logo is not a person shrugging their shoulders (but now you can't unsee that!)
The three lines in the logo represent the two rivers, the two highways (16 and 97), and the two railroads (CN and BC rail) - at their confluence. The notion of confluence is also highlighted in the name Lheidli T'enneh, which means "people from where the rivers come together" in the Dakelh language.
The little flower at the top comes from our official Coat of Arms and it is a fraise. That represents Simon Fraser and accentuates the importance of the confluence to Prince George. The flower is also a shape that looks like the spokes of a wheel - or the hub - as we are the hub of the north.
Kind of a nice symbolic logo. We thought you'd find that interesting. That is all.
I agree! I also dug up this old blog post from 2010 I wrote titled “Why is the Logo for the City of Prince George Turning Up on Skateboard Clothes?”
Here’s the whole thing because you are nice subscribers:
Why is the Logo for the City of Prince George Turning Up on Skateboard Clothes?
First published 7 September 2010
via Shawn Petriw on Facebook:
“I’m always amazed how artists working completely independently can create something so similar. It’s happened to me, and apparently, it’s happened to Slingshot. Add a dogwood on top and you’ve essentially got the City of Prince George logo.”
This is what he means. Here’s the logo for the City of Prince George side by side with the logo for Fenchurch, a skateboard-clothing company:
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For those of you who don’t know (and I’m not surprised there would be those who don’t, since it’s impossible for me to find a link on this, the City of Prince George’s logo is a dogwood1 (British Columbia’s provincial flower) over top of an image that represents the coming together of the Nechako and Fraser Rivers. It’s pretty cool, actually, but vague enough that it can be interpreted in many different ways. For example, most people I ask think it’s a snowflake and some random lines. Slingshot, the company that created the Fenchurch logo describes their design thusly:
After submitting many ideas and sketches for the Fenchurch logo, the arch design was conceived. There are many ideas behind the design, the first being that it comprises of two mirror images of the letter F. It has a very strong and solid feel and its architectural forms are vaguely reminiscent of the arches and stained glass windows found in churches and the main one being a graphic representation of the train tracks of Fenchurch Street Station.
The logo is in no way pictorial or literal and therefore does not limit the the products that the company produces, it has already experimented with shoes as well as clothing and offer many accessories that are not necessarily related to clothing. By creating a logo that was in a way anonymous it means that Fenchurch is not limited to the clothing market alone.
But even Fenchurch is not alone. It seems Mr. Petriw brought the similarities of the two logos to the attention of the designers, who, according to Mr. Petriw’s Facebook page responded:
“Ah yeah, you know since I did that logo in 2000, I’ve seen several that are similar. Must be zeitgeist! Or maybe because it’s a form that can represent many things. The worst one for me was when I went to Paris two years later and walked past the 30 year old Les Quatre Temps mall, check it out:
– thankfully that’s been knocked down now and they have a completely di
NOTE FROM 2022: UNFORTUNATELY THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN LOST TO TIME. BACK TO 2010fferent logo.”
It’s a pretty interesting case study of a strong design being used to represent different things. Anybody else have records of similar motifs?